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Last post 03-01-2010 10:10 PM by crazybrit. 25 replies.
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  • 11-23-2009 4:44 PM In reply to

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    You have got to be kidding me!?!  I hearf about this so-called "law" yesterday and refused to believe until I saw it as a formal Ontario Law or a Family Law Specialist/Lawyer advised me of its existence.  I won't say anyone is wrong until I found out the truth, so I had to check it out.  I just finished browsing through all Child related Ontario Laws and, as expected, found nothing pertaining to Child sleeping arrangements.  Also, it doesn't seem that many people are aware of this "law", leading me to believe that its existence is fraudulent, or all parents would know.  So far I've spoken with 6 couples (friends) with children and none have heard of this.
     
    How can you justify removing children from a loving environment because that familly may not be able to afford a 3-bedroom dwelling?  How can you justify splitting up siblings for the same reason? 
     
     

  • 11-23-2009 4:51 PM In reply to

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    Unbelievable... out of all the web pages Google searches the only place I found information regading this silly "law", is in the Treehouse TV forum.  Hmmmm... I think that might tell me something, well that and I've been through every child related law in each Canadian province and haven't found a single reference to this particular "Violation". 
     
    Next time you decide to pass something this sensitive off as fact, especially to people who's lives are directly affected by a potential conflict related to your statement (e.g. 2 children - boy & girl - living in a 2-bedroom apartment since that's all the family can afford), try checking out the validity our your claim.  Oh yeah, be sure to reference the correction to your initial source since I know you didn't read about this, someone else who likes to pass rumours on through heresay must have told you!

  • 11-23-2009 5:00 PM In reply to

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    meandthree:
    The actual laws in Ontario according to the Children's Aid Society is that opposite sexed children can be in the same room up to age 7 providing it does not become uncomfortable for the child! I called to check because at one time we did have to put our kids together temporarily!
     
    I find that rather funny since, a) the CAS is appointed by the Provincial Government to uphold the laws written BY the Provincial Government; and b) after searching tirlessly through each Provinces Child Services Laws I can't find a single statement even closely resembling what is being discussed in here. 
     
    In case you dind't know there is a big difference between LAW and PREFERENCE.  So if this Law really does exist, and for some reason I can't locate it anywhere, please reference for me in a response.  Otherwise, stop with the heresay!

  • 11-23-2009 5:04 PM In reply to

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    SandGsDad:
    That law is quite possibly the most idiotic I've heard of....Way to go, Ontario Gov't for deciding that you're a better parent than the actual parents...
    I'd say that was a COMPLETELY personal choice....my sister and I(male) shared a room until we were almost ten simply because there WERE no other rooms in our house available..
    And yeah, we saw each other naked a few times as a result.....AHHHHH!!!...not.
    It's astounding how quickly you ignore that...

    Oddly enough, we both are well-adjusted normal adults.....

    In fact, I think that it's far better for kids to see the other gender naked.
    It eliminates this big "mystery" and need for kids to be "naughty" by playing doctor...

    By allowing this acess, you eliminate it being a 'big deal' rather quickly....
    I mean, come on, it's a basic biological fact that males and females are anatomically genitally and reproductively different and beyond THAT, at least until puberty, they are the same mentally, physically and pretty much every other way...
    Why make that one difference such a huge social barrier?
     
    Don't be so quick to believe everything you hear... take the time to do a little research and you'll quickly find that there is no passge in Ontario, or any other province for that matter, stating this Law.  In fact, do a Google search and the only reference to this, is right here in the Treehouse TV forum... hmmm, that's funny!

  • 11-23-2009 5:06 PM In reply to

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    fivepack1977:
    i have 5 kids and 3 bdrms. I can't afford more. I can barely afford what i have. In one room we have 3 girls ages 11, 3 and 2. the other room is the boys ages 10 and 2. No problems so far except CAS told me that once the oldest turns 4, opposite sexes couldn't share rooms due to curiosity. How's that for BS.
     
    It's exactly that... BS!  Go check out the e-Laws online and see if you can find ANY PROVINCIAL stature maintaining this absurd law.  Not there!

  • 11-27-2009 1:50 PM In reply to

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    GypsySlide:
     
    meandthree:
    The actual laws in Ontario according to the Children's Aid Society is that opposite sexed children can be in the same room up to age 7 providing it does not become uncomfortable for the child! I called to check because at one time we did have to put our kids together temporarily!
     
    I find that rather funny since, a) the CAS is appointed by the Provincial Government to uphold the laws written BY the Provincial Government; and b) after searching tirlessly through each Provinces Child Services Laws I can't find a single statement even closely resembling what is being discussed in here. 
     
    In case you dind't know there is a big difference between LAW and PREFERENCE.  So if this Law really does exist, and for some reason I can't locate it anywhere, please reference for me in a response.  Otherwise, stop with the heresay!



    THe closest thing I can find is in a book called "Child Protection aand Canadian Law: A Service Perspective" regarding foster homes.

    5.  No foster child over six  years of age shares a bedroom with another child of the opposite sex.


    Part III  Protecting Children's Safety, page 145-146 which describes what rooms can be used and how they can be shared.

    So the law exists but oonly for fostering and not for families.

    I used to be such a sweet sweet thing
    Till they gotta hold of me.

  • 12-03-2009 1:36 PM In reply to

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    If CAS is going to remove children from a home, there must be more to the story.  If it was simply a matter of separating the children into different befrooms, they would've given the parents a chance to do so before taking them out of the home.

    My children share a bedroom - the eldest is a 5 yr old boy and the youngest is a 2 yr old girl.  We are in the process of moving into a bigger home.  When we told them they would each have their own room in the new house, they asked "But why can't we sleep in the same room?".  They are best buddies!!  

    Once children are older, I think it's natural for them to want more privacy - especially those of different genders.  And I think the decision to place them into different bedrooms, should be based on the individual children themselves and their preferences.

     

  • 01-31-2010 2:09 PM In reply to

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    I lived in a tiney, tiny house when I was a little girl, and I shared a room with my two older sisters.  I hated it, because I never got an privacy when I was changing or doing homework or trying to read.  Plus, they had to study for tests since they were older, and so they stayed up half the night quizzing each other.  My mom realized the stress so what she did was she set up a curtain that went from one side of the room to the other, we could close it when we wanted privacy, or open it when we wanted to play and have fun.
     
    Haha, yea, it was hectic.  I think age should be About the same, a couple years difference shouldn't matter, but don't put your 4 year old in with a 17 year old, if you know what I'm saying.  Gender, though, I think matters a lot!  I mean, not to be stereotypical or anything, but boys usually like to bother their sisters, and when my brothers did that, my room is where I went.  There would be issues if the bed room was also his!
    Haha, yea, but if their both girls with a good bond, then go for it!!
    :)

  • 01-31-2010 2:13 PM In reply to

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    I lived in ontario when I was little, all the way to 17 and shared with my 21 year old sister, then she moved out, I don't think thats stilll around, because my neice is now 5 living in ontario and shes still shares with her sister,

    Haha :) 

  • 02-25-2010 2:35 PM In reply to

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    My daughter and son share a room together and they find it fun, They are two years apart and love talking to each other at bed time, I personally think that when my son turns 6 its time for him to get his own bedroom, I of course only think this because of their different gender. But if they are the same gender then it should be no problem, my sister and I shared a room till I was 11 but it also depends on how the siblings get along

  • 03-01-2010 10:10 PM In reply to

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    crazybrit:
    GypsySlide:
     
    meandthree:
    The actual laws in Ontario according to the Children's Aid Society is that opposite sexed children can be in the same room up to age 7 providing it does not become uncomfortable for the child! I called to check because at one time we did have to put our kids together temporarily!
     
    I find that rather funny since, a) the CAS is appointed by the Provincial Government to uphold the laws written BY the Provincial Government; and b) after searching tirlessly through each Provinces Child Services Laws I can't find a single statement even closely resembling what is being discussed in here. 
     
    In case you dind't know there is a big difference between LAW and PREFERENCE.  So if this Law really does exist, and for some reason I can't locate it anywhere, please reference for me in a response.  Otherwise, stop with the heresay!



    THe closest thing I can find is in a book called "Child Protection aand Canadian Law: A Service Perspective" regarding foster homes.

    5.  No foster child over six  years of age shares a bedroom with another child of the opposite sex.


    Part III  Protecting Children's Safety, page 145-146 which describes what rooms can be used and how they can be shared.

    So the law exists but oonly for fostering and not for families.



    In case any missed this post



    THE LAW IS FOR FOSTER FAMILIES ONLY, NOT BIOLOGICAL FAMILIES.

    As far as the law appears to be concerned , biological families can allow thier children to share how they want.Though from personal experience as a child and a parent, sharing with either a same sex or different sex sibling soon gets tiresome.
    I used to be such a sweet sweet thing
    Till they gotta hold of me.
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